# AI mega thread **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** ai\ **Created:** [October 7, 2026, 11:48pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743 "2026-10-07T23:48:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/407 "2026-11-10T11:13:00Z")
By that logic, an executive writing a spec sheet or a client dictating app requirements to an agency is ‘coding’ (yes, I’ve heard that, actually). You are confusing abstraction with delegation, and (of course) formal determinism with probabilistic sloppywork. That’s product management, not real programming (or coding) ---
**Author:** ![AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/andycadley/32/177_2.png) [@AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/AndyCadley)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/408 "2026-11-10T11:24:10Z")
> [@Gryzor](#): > > By that logic, an executive writing a spec sheet or a client dictating app requirements to an agency is ‘coding’ (yes, I’ve heard that, actually). No, because unlike an AI prompt it wasn’t possible to simply take that and produce working code. As soon as you can take some text and use it to generate runnable binaries that do what you want, then it’s coding/programming. We don’t necessarily have to like that, but that is the world we now live in. ---
**Author:** ![rexbeng](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/rexbeng/32/356_2.png) [@rexbeng](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/rexbeng)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/409 "2026-11-10T12:00:21Z")
> [@AndyCadley](#): > > I hate to break it to people, but that’s what programming is now. Yes but what about the ‘for all the reasons people dont give a F and want to do their hobby the old-fashioned way’ part? Is it not evident already? ---
**Author:** ![AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/andycadley/32/177_2.png) [@AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/AndyCadley)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 12:08pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/410 "2026-11-10T12:08:26Z")
Sure, but like it or not other people will enjoy _their_ hobby _their_ way. Trying to be some kind of gatekeeper to the _correct_ way to enjoy the CPC is entirely doomed to fail and the only person it is going to stress out is you. Like I said all along, you don’t have to _like_ it, but ultimately we all do have to _accept_ it. ---
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/411 "2026-11-10T12:17:48Z")
> [@AndyCadley](#): > > No, because unlike an AI prompt it wasn’t possible to simply take that and produce working code. Ummm yes? That’s how speccing works. Again, abstraction vs delegation. ---
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/412 "2026-11-10T12:20:08Z")
> [@AndyCadley](#): > > but ultimately we all do have to _accept_ it. …or not. ---
**Author:** ![rexbeng](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/rexbeng/32/356_2.png) [@rexbeng](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/rexbeng)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/413 "2026-11-10T12:21:20Z")
I don’t disagree with you. But if we come to the conclusion that this is a ‘class war’ and it’s not going to ‘solve itself’, what happens next? ---
**Author:** ![AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/andycadley/32/177_2.png) [@AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/AndyCadley)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/414 "2026-11-10T14:23:40Z")
The world has changed. The genie is no longer in the bottle. Like it or not, that is just the way things are now and will be going forward until something else comes along and changes the world again. Raging against the dying of the light might make us feel better, but it isn’t about to change anything. ---
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/415 "2026-11-10T14:42:16Z")
Yeah you guys keep saying that without explaining why or how it’s relevant. So what? ---
**Author:** ![AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/andycadley/32/177_2.png) [@AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/AndyCadley)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/416 "2026-11-10T15:41:48Z")
> [@Gryzor](#): > > Yeah you guys keep saying that without explaining why or how it’s relevant. How is it not relevant??? It doesn’t matter if any of _us_ decide to declare that “real” developers only use punch cards. That anyone who deigns to use anything other than punch cards isn’t doing it “properly”. Nobody else is going to stick to that definition. Wanting to use a definition that was relevant in the past isn’t going to make anyone else do it. Are you a “real” driver if you don’t use a manual choke? Or if you don’t start your car with a crankshaft? ---
**Author:** ![rexbeng](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/rexbeng/32/356_2.png) [@rexbeng](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/rexbeng)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/417 "2026-11-10T15:47:03Z")
However, if you bring all of that to your local “punch-card developers’ club”, you might end up arguing over completely different meanings of the word ‘punch’. 😛 (and I used AI to make sure I got that one right!) ---
**Author:** ![AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/andycadley/32/177_2.png) [@AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/AndyCadley)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 4:16pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/418 "2026-11-10T16:16:23Z")
Sure but CPCWiki isn’t a “hand coded assembly developers only” forum. It’s not even a developers only forum. Complaining that people are doing things with a CPC seems bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/419 "2026-11-10T16:57:41Z")
Again, I don’t understand what this argument is trying to argue. Unless it’s the “oh, you must go with the flow since it’s the flow”. Well, for someone who doesn’t go with the flow just because, or makes zero sense. ---
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/420 "2026-11-10T16:59:05Z")
> [@AndyCadley](#): > > doing things with a CPC I’ll be pretty impressed the day someone runs a LLM on a CPC powerful enough to make games for it. Until then it’s “throwing prompts to a PC to make something that may or may not run on a CPC”. ---
**Author:** ![BSC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/bsc/32/23_2.png) [@BSC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/BSC)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 6:08pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/421 "2026-11-10T18:08:08Z")
It might surprise you to learn how many people have actually not touched a real CPC in years when coding _for the CPC_. Apparently using emulation is well accepted by the majority and even people using or watching the results most likely don’t run all of it on a real machine all of the time. So expecting an LLM to run on a CPC is like expecting people to do everything on the actual machine. Afaik only Hicks and Beb do that 😄 I see a distinction, though, and looking through that lens I understand you and @rexbeng I don’t use AI for CPC stuff and am not planning it, as said, I enjoy the challenges solving problems and writing code myself. At work, though, we are encouraged to and supported when using AI and I get stuff done with much less time spent reading documentation or searching for the right switch or argument or config setting or file or label or or or. I still understand the underlying concepts, come up with the broader road map, I actually sit at the steering wheel and none of this would work without me knowing my stuff. But Claude can turn that into code or yaml or a config file or a sequence of bash commands or whatever much faster then I could ever do. And I am happy I don’t have to deal with the intricacies of bash (for example) anymore. It’s just so fu\*\*ing tedious in comparison, I really don’t want to go back to the manual way. Just as 2 years ago I would not have wanted to write the assembly code myself instead of letting clang do it for me. And one more thing: Most of my colleagues know shit about the code clang (or any other C++ compiler) spits out. They would be totally lost debugging it. And I myself can’t re-use much of my understanding of Z80 there, as well. So that’s where I see the gap right now. It’s useful at work, where you get paid for results and more results in the same time (at a similar quality as before) is desirable. It’s debatable when doing it as a hobby. But then, again, everyone choses how true to the craft they work. Going by that, only Hicks and Beb are true old schoolers and everyone else cheats to some extent. ---
**Author:** ![Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/gryzor/32/7_2.png) [@Gryzor](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Gryzor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/422 "2026-11-10T18:32:50Z")
I consider “working with an emulated CPC” still “working with a CPC”. Working with a LLM however is NOT working with a CPC in any way or form. > [@BSC](#): > > At work, though, we are encouraged to and supported when using AI and I get stuff done with much less time spent Well, it _is_ a mega thread so you may have missed it, but I do use a number of LLMs on a daily basis for a variety of stuff. I never implied AI doesn’t have its uses. The problem is when I pass on a marketing report, or a GTM analysis, as my own instead of sitting down and writing it while using one to help me. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_Flack](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/anthony_flack/32/35_2.png) [@Anthony\_Flack](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/Anthony_Flack)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/423 "2026-11-10T21:11:04Z")
> [@AndyCadley](#): > > Are you a “real” driver if you don’t use a manual choke? Or if you don’t start your car with a crankshaft? As you automate the process more and more, there must come a point where you would no longer be driving. Are you a “real” driver if you sit in a self-driving taxi and give it directions? ---
**Author:** ![AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/user_avatar/forum.cpcwiki.eu/andycadley/32/177_2.png) [@AndyCadley](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/AndyCadley)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/424 "2026-11-10T21:32:05Z")
> [@Gryzor](#): > > Again, I don’t understand what this argument is trying to argue. Unless it’s the “oh, you must go with the flow since it’s the flow”. What’s a _practical_ alternative? Ban any discussion of any game involving AI at all? Not really feasible. Ban “developers” of AI games from starting threads about them? You’ll just end up with threads about them started by other people. Try and define some acceptable “level” of AI? Nobody agrees and the worst offenders will just say their games involve no AI anyway. This is _the_ point. There is no practical way to prevent this discussion any more, nothing anyone does is going to really make any difference. Turning _every_ discussion about any software you _think_ might involve AI into a fight just perpetuates discussion around exactly the things you don’t want. It’s _entirely_ self destructive. There were plenty of crappy games made in the last few years and people _just didn’t engage_. And when you do that, the threads disappeared. ---
**Author:** ![zhulien](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/ce7236/32.png) [@zhulien](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/u/zhulien)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743/425 "2026-11-10T23:26:33Z")
Why not everyone use AI if they want, don’t use if you don’t want. Play AI coded games if you want, don’t if you don’t want. But don’t force your restrictions on others [Previous page](https://forum.cpcwiki.eu/t/ai-mega-thread/743.md?page=20)