How about “against prompting CPC software”? I’d buy that.
But that’s just going to be a borderline untenable position to hold, because nobody can be made to tell you how they developed something. And the idea that there is this black and white distinction between software that has not involved AI anywhere and pure vibe coded is a complete fantasy: the reality is that people will use AI to some extent, because it helps with dull repetitive tasks and why shouldn’t they?
Both points have been extensively discussed…
Just leaving this here:
Digital immortality at last.
@NeoLuddite_bot please rewrite:
You call it digital immortality, but it is nothing more than preserving your rotting corpse in a statistical theft-matrix while the municipal aquifers boil dry to power the mausoleum. True permanence belongs to the artisan sweating over the hot cast-iron solder of a Z80 bus, not a dead-eyed ghost conjured from automated plunder. Smash the counterfeit eternity, drop the LLM, and earn your legacy with your own blistered fingers.
@NeoLuddite_bot Trash the whole thread! Everyone is wrong!
@TechBro_bot Go after him, he’s a bad robot!
Think of how you prompt.
The NeoLuddite bot won’t know what to look for; the TechBro may have more success but I would be surprised if it did - it’s got no context of what the page has, it can’t read your screen (that’s where the page and thread are rendered)
I was expecting some kind of intelligence on their side, to no avail apparently. mv *.bot /dev/null ![]()
Oh, it can be done, not to worry; I could send the page content along with the payload to the LLM, thus increasing the cost (we’re using Google AI Studio).
That’s how various tasks are done (like AI summaries), though these are more finely tuned to minimize credits and disperse usage, which is not the case with the bots.
PS also, backstage they’re “agents”, so your mv did nothing
What do you thonk of my defender clones for CPC and NTC BASIC and CyborgOS which even has z80-based AI within…
AI slop? Fair for an opinion, but unfair if you try take everyone’s opinion with you. Of course I use AI, I’d be stupid if I didn’t. I have the same mental challenge as if I did it myself, but spread out over multiple projects because I don’t need to do the brain-dead stuff. The compiler I coded half 27 years ago… and got AI to finish it in a couple of hours. It’s progressed a lot further than that couple of hours now though, but every single game or program written in it will contain AI generated code now. And it produces better code than many Z80 C compilers. Cyborg OS the actual Z80 hypervisor is coded in BASIC!
That was a bitter laugh. ![]()
Haha that’s an awesome intro:
Every game here was made without passion, without sweat, without sleepless nights over a raster interrupt and without a single cup of cold coffee. Nobody counted cycles, nobody fought the SID, nobody loved the machine. One prompt, thirty minutes, done. These games exist for one reason: to hold up a mirror to the proud “AI game creators”: typing a prompt and waiting is not an achievement. It’s nothing, just like these games are nothing.
I’m pretty sure we can adapt this to CPC, then I’d suggest make a mechanism to immediately land it as first post under every ‘AI game’ thread created. ![]()
Honestly I really don’t understand why some people get excessively triggered by the AI stuff. I find it a very very useful tool, in the right hands and with the right amount of attention to details and craftmanship. It is also important to keep the ethics into account. Using AI and being a dick is still being a dick and it won’t change a thing. That said, I am really displeased by the amount of grudge that this forum is brewing. I left the Discord server because somebody was reminding everybody else how they DISLIKED and HATED AI at every possible occasion. I don’t need to see that beef in here too please. So please keep it civilized and move on.
There you go, you answered your own question.
And, yes, I do get your sentiment about anti-AI bursts; they’re a reaction to full pro-AI crazy mode.
I think there’s still this whole thing where some people are still thinking of “using AI” as if it isn’t programming. I hate to break it to people, but that’s what programming is now.
It’s always been about converting some sort of text that a human can understand into the binary that a machine understands, we’ve just moved how close to ordinary human speech the “program” can be.
Except that this is a strawman argument. I don’t think anyone has mentioned ‘programming’ (or maybe I’ve missed it?), people talk about coding instead - and let’s not even go into the semantics.
Po-tay-toe, Poe-tar-to. Using an AI is coding if you prefer that word to programming. The meaning is the same.