Hush, peasant, he’s giving words his own meanings, you don’t get it.
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I moved several comments from other threads here, and also enabled nested replies because this thread has gotten looooong.
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This is middle-school sophistry, except that (luckily) we learned about sophistry in middle-school, indeed - and some of us paid attention.
Of course, literally every physical object in the observable universe larger than an isolated quark is “synthetic” by that definition. Everything is just combinations of parts forming a whole. So no need for a definition other than “everything but the most elemental of forms”. No need for anything else, really.
Regardless, that dictionary definition is stupid and really sloppy as well. It confuses mere aggregate with synthesis. Going by it, if you toss three tomatoes, a wrench and an AA battery into a bag, you have a… synthesis? Yeah, good luck with that. A definition requires a genus and a differentia. Here we only have the barest of categories. Somehow, the guy who wrote it managed to erase the actual semantic meaning. Good job!
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“We’ve got Hall Of Shame at home!” 
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Common in AI made games for Amstrad it seems:
- Use of the same font
- Over use of RAM.
- There will be graphical glitches left behind - found them in nearly every AI game I’ve played.
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I would add, the systematic use of hardware scrolling (which might explain the consistent requirement for 128KB of memory).
But then again, given everything the AI has learned through the recent surge in interest in retro development, I’m certain it will be significantly better very soon (Opus 5.6, perhaps?).
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One more:
- Single buffer
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I think if the prompt is asking for a scrolling game then hardware scrolling is the natural choice because of the available examples (some of which come from what I’ve posted) and in other places (e.g. cpctelera). I think if software scrolling was chosen then it would have a harder time keeping to a frame rate.
With the font, it’s not always the same but it’s similar and I just prompted the AI to produce ‘a nice arcade like font’ and ‘a 4x8 font with upper and lower case’ and it could do it, I think if it’s a basic mode 0 font it ends up similar to what we see.
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Overuse or intended use? I make my sprites all compiled, ram is cheap I have 4mb of it but I target 576k or less mostly
What I’m longing for, is for someone to create an AI ‘player-bot’ and include it in an emulator, so it will play the non-human created games and then, based on a set of qualities defined by humans, evaluate if those games deserve to be played by real humans.
Come to think of it, we can set that quality list anyway, so people who employ AI to make their games can consult.
First rule should be, ‘before making it available, play the game from start to finish and make sure it works and gives enough reasons to play it’. It is ridiculous to ask real people to waste their time evaluating AI slop.
If the AI player bot sounds too far-fetched, then people blindly cheerleading for AI “assisted” games can play those games from start to finish. From messages posted here, I understand there are quite a few people who feel every release is ‘great’ and are eager to spread the culture. So, go ahead, play the games and enlighten us.
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I saw this today and found the points made rather interesting.
Which makes me wonder. Are we in this CPC scene forum in a similar situation where we don’t know what to do about this; baffled between ethics, personal opinions and behavior codes? We are close to 400 posts into this discussion and still, the frontpage is being populated with new slop every day (either raw careless slop or slop refined around the edges to appear agreeable or, the worst kind, slop that pretends to not be slop; all still SLOP though).
And I’m not sure what the deal is, really. I saw this topic created today and realized there’s no point to talk about games anymore. Anyone can make a list, check it twice, no care who’s been naughty or nice, spend a few bucks on his favorite LLM and, voila! Why even bother to talk with actual people about it, what reason is there to understand the technicalities or, ultimately, care if the bloody thing works? And upload everything at itchio with a ‘name your price’ tag, then some people will pick all those up and create equal number of threads in the wiki, as if there’s not enough FB pages, X posts and other quick engagement feeds they get reposted at already.
Then, when (entirely random choice) I get annoyed and ask for people not to leave their trash at my regular hangout’s doorstep, I learn I am allowed to not look at them, and I believe eventually will be reminded the option to ‘go elsewhere if I don’t like’.
@Devlin had mentioned the Nazi Bar Parable, which makes a brute analogy because of the ‘nazi’ component, however it’s not hard to understand the point. So, have we reached that moment were we don’t care and silently showing ourselves the exit, while our niche place turns into something entirely different? Or are we patiently waiting it out, hopping the slopers and their fans get bored and move to the next hot thing? Or do we go balls to the walls ‘lol, fuck AI’?
I believe some people have actually even written in this thread something along the lines of ‘should just accept it and move on’, which puts me off entirely.
There’s my Monday morning rant; need moar coffee 
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The brutal truth here is that the genie is out of the bottle, lads and ladettes - you’re not going to stop the use of AI: you can try to ban it but no one will give a single flying ****. You might as well try to stop the tide coming in.
So chill, and go with flow. Use it or not use it. Play stuff made with it, or don’t play stuff made with it. Your choice. My choice.
For me, I find it personally and professionally a useful tool, that is all. Going forward, I will be using it to assist me in my developing stuff, full stop. Though all my stuff is available for free and all resulting code I put out under the GPL.
Though not at the moment, as I’ve installed OpenMW/Total Overhaul/Tamriel Rebuilt/Gates of Oblivion for my replaythough of Morrowind in a few years, and I expect to be compulsively killing cliff racers for the next few months instead.
Taking someone else’s game, claiming it’s your own and selling it is a dick move. But it’s also been part of the scene for a very long time (and certainly before AI). If someone hasn’t taken your game, run it through nocash and sold a GX cartridge version, you’ve barely made it.
As to the linked thread, is it really that different to MODE 1 > MODE 0 wishlist for example? If someone had started much the same thread about games that could be improved, but not mentioned AI, would you even have commented?
I get that the volumes of productions has shot up and even that many of them are crappy. The same sort of thing happens whenever anyone makes a tool to make game development easier. AGD did, to some extent (though the CPC version never really caught on), I suspect R-GX will also see a flood of new GX games simply by reducing the barrier to entry. But also over time, the novelty wears off, people get better at using whatever the tool is and the end result is usually better productions in smaller quantities.
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Again with this “argument”… Well, I’m sorry we don’t go with the flow feeling obliged to like something because we don’t like it.
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Oh you as you don’t have to. But others will do different.
So?
man, those arguments are such non-sequiturs…
This whole bloody thread is a non-sequitur. 
The problem is it boils down to “There are too many things being released for the CPC” and “I don’t like a lot of the games coming out”
Both of which are fine opinions, but there’s not really anything that anyone can to practically prevent. Unless CPCWiki becomes a place to advocate against releasing CPC software and we all start suggesting things because Spectrum games instead???